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Alyssa5mon 7d
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AlyssaApr 19, 2020
Question of the hour: Do we re-add librarian
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
+1
Answer of the hour: hell to the no
nocashApr 19, 2020
+2
Nimau
It also has 0 voting power which is not in the role description which is a HUGE point of confusion for people.
I forget about this all the time. Also doesn't even have it's own winning message. How can I gloat about winning when the game doesn't tell me I won? Pointless.
filkoApr 19, 2020
-1
tbh add saboteur and thief
nocashApr 19, 2020
I won't stump for librarian but it has some uses.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
+1
Yeah no win message is enough to warrant it not being added period
NimauApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Nomad's more of a politician that gets to choose their own route but I agree it's weak enough to not include, no voting power aside. It just gets pushed aside as a weaker role where survivor has more on the line with trying to hide behind users and just make it to the end, I see Nomad and Vivor with the same end-goal but just different processes
It's not that Nomad is weak, playing AS Nomad is fine, but playing WITH Nomad is really frustrating.

If Nomad outs immediately, like I said, guaranteed sanity Cop that Maf now has to waste a kill on a 3p because they chose to immediately townside.

If Nomad decides to townside lategame they often have a list of Mafia to freely out to the Town.

If Nomad decides to mafside lategame they often feel like they contributed nothing and may as well have been vivor.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
Tea time 2 for the hour: Silencer, Fiddler, Blinder. All, none, or some?
NimauApr 19, 2020
I like Librarian; my issue is the same as with Troublemaker, people who just use it n1. When people actually hold it for an important day it's a really cool role. It's still more fun than Troublemaker but I'm fine with it being added or not.
spaceApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Answer of the hour: hell to the no
librarian is... okay. but it's basically an non-killing nilla that knows it's meeting partners because they can whisper without leaking on library day.

but lib day always happens n1 because it's the only day where it makes sense since you can contact without issue but after that the contact is pointless since librarian can't do anything else. i keep it in sometimes because i really like how the role works but it's almost self-defeating.
NimauApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Tea time 2 for the hour: Silencer, Fiddler, Blinder. All, none, or some?
All. Silencer is the least fun of the bunch but they are all good.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
ftr blinder, fiddler and silencer are all in Blurst but librarian is not
filkoApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Tea time 2 for the hour: Silencer, Fiddler, Blinder. All, none, or some?
Silencer & Fiddler definite yes.
Blinder: sure, why not. I like when people think LK died so they start spamming but everyone else can see it's them.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
When I started making personal setups away from the main official sandbox setup I tried to push Judge, Warlock, Enchantress and Blinder as roles. I've only wavered on Enchantress and slightly on Warlock but I stand by the other two being great in Sandbox and I'm glad that they got a footing in other setups too now
spaceApr 19, 2020
+1
sab is a great role.
there are a lot of possibilities for guns to exist and were it differs with slinger/shooter is that it not conditional to having the gun used on you, but having the gun used at all which makes it's primary purpose much more probable than gunslinger or sharpshooter.

you can fk with any gun celeb might get, gs/armsdealer hands out if you hit their target, sheriff guns, dep guns.

i love sab it's underrated.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
+2
Adding Informant against my will
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
iirc Saboteur as a role is messy atm just as Mechanic is - else I'd consider adding both
spaceApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Tea time 2 for the hour: Silencer, Fiddler, Blinder. All, none, or some?
blinder is pointless.

fiddler is so frustrating but can be useful.

silencer is an absolute keep. you can use it to mess around with someone, to silence celeb or tree or any other clear. it's rly advantageous for whoever is silencer/maf.
NimauApr 19, 2020
I have determined with much experience and experimentation that if I roll Sab, the game is coded to never, ever have a gun role. Hard pass from me.
spaceApr 19, 2020
+1
Alyssa
iirc Saboteur as a role is messy atm just as Mechanic is - else I'd consider adding both
how so?
i got it once and it worked as intended.

you can turn asso guns into fab guns with sab it's such a good role plis consider unless it's actually legitimately way too buggy.