12p discourse290

Alyssa6mon 8d
+6
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
All 3 of the roles that effect speech are troll roles and are gonna be kept. :doge:
spaceApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Adding Informant against my will
informant is one of those roles where it feels wrong to exclude if you're keeping journalist but you don't want it there at all.

like when you get a free gift with an order but the free gift is some worthless shint you don't want.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
+2
And yeah even if they worked I'm not sure if I'd be open to sab/mechanic just because they're dependent on, again, items.

Lucid talked about conditional closed setups(like sab/mechanic would role if there So and So role is in the game) which I 100% would adore if they happened, but I doubt lucid will come through on that, these roles will have to just be benched for the time being from the official setup.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
No need to talk me into adding a role I already added!
filkoApr 19, 2020
hot take: quack can be a useful role
NimauApr 19, 2020
+2
filko
hot take: quack can be a useful role
Maybe if it was meeting. But alas, it is not, and thus shite.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
+2
I removed Mut but I'm gonna be greedy and keep filibuster in even if people never have strong opinions on it... girls gotta plug in her stuff somehow and it's NOT gonna be through vice pres lemme tell u that
GolbolcoApr 19, 2020
Vice President is a good role.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
I've included telepath/whisperer in personal setups and haven't liked them... would like to hear thoughts for future considerations though
filkoApr 19, 2020
also add my third party battle royale setup to featured setups https://epicmafia.com/setup/1524685
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
I'd consider that but Amelio's has way more 3rds which has way more variety..
filkoApr 19, 2020
sometimes less is better
NimauApr 19, 2020
Filibuster is a fine role, easily identifiable by the Town when it triggers while having huge upside as Maf.

Alyssa
I've included telepath/whisperer in personal setups and haven't liked them... would like to hear thoughts for future considerations though
I literally only use these roles to flirt and enjoy them for that purpose. For gameplay they almost never matter outside of just being a claim that people try to guess if they are Telepath or Whisperer.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
Does anyone feel anything negative against Toreador? I gotsta know
spaceApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
And yeah even if they worked I'm not sure if I'd be open to sab/mechanic just because they're dependent on, again, items.

Lucid talked about conditional closed setups(like sab/mechanic would role if there So and So role is in the game) which I 100% would adore if they happened, but I doubt lucid will come through on that, these roles will have to just be benched for the time being from the official setup.
mechanic is about a thousand times more conditional than sab. i really don't see them as equivalents. they're opposites. where tracker/scout and watcher/lookout are equivs, mech and sab do the exact opposite thing and because most guns work to begin with, mech NEEDS a sab or fab in the game which is what makes it a bad role whereas sab only needs a role with a gun or a gunner in the game which is fairly often (santa/dep/sheriff/gunsmith/armsdealer/asso/trickster/tinkerer though they'd have to sab a saved gun since visiting automatically prevents tink gun creation/etc).
NimauApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Does anyone feel anything negative against Toreador? I gotsta know
No. If Tore gets themselves killed it's their own fault. Good role.
AlyssaApr 19, 2020
+2
Polar bear isn't in Blurst and I feel it's too muddled to work well in a 12p setup. open to disagreements
filkoApr 19, 2020
Alyssa
Does anyone feel anything negative against Toreador? I gotsta know
Toreador is a great role
spaceApr 19, 2020
+2
Alyssa
I removed Mut but I'm gonna be greedy and keep filibuster in even if people never have strong opinions on it... girls gotta plug in her stuff somehow and it's NOT gonna be through vice pres lemme tell u that
filibuster is a great role
props 2 u
GolbolcoApr 19, 2020
+1
mechanic is about a thousand times more conditional than sab. i really don't see them as equivalents. they're opposites.
This thread reminds me of how inconsistent and unsystematic some of the roles are. There needs to be a protocol in place going forward and an effort to repair some of these roles.