HC vio33

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So I got an HC vio for saying a word which doesn't even exist https://epicmafia.com/report/281003

As I understand, if I say now a word which is close to an offensive word (it rhymes or it has one letter flipped) then I get a HC vio?

I was wondering where do we draw the line here exactly? Am I allowed to say niger? Or is it also banned because it is really close to the n word? How about if istead of saying the r word, I flip 2 letter instead of 1? Is that also not allowed? Why aren't they filltered then, if they are not allowed?

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CitadelJan 12, 2020
Why are you trying to deduce a robotic algorithm that draws the line when the person who's handing you the violation has an adaptive brain and can make different decision on a case-to-case basis. If the moderator thinks your ill-intentions are clear, finding a creative way to bypass the filter will net you a violation. It really is as simple as that.

It really amazes me how people actively compromise their integrity just to try and evade on a technicality when you know well enough that the person in front of you can see through it.
UniversalStudiosJan 12, 2020
But where do we drawl that line?
alexandraJan 12, 2020
we draw the line at “don’t say slurs or try to be cute and say a non slur that’s similar to a slur to bypass the rules”

it is mindblowingly easy to just not try and say slurs
UniversalStudiosJan 12, 2020
As a person that could potentially be drafted, I posted a culturally relevant meme a few people agreed with and got a violation for racial slurs.
UniversalStudios
Is the term "rere" acceptable?
This also didn't get answered.
alexandraJan 12, 2020
it’s slang for the r word so no
payamcfJan 12, 2020
alexandra
payamcf
aquarius
it becomes pretty obvious when you use the word Niger in any context other than it being a country
You think so?

"You behave like a Niger" are you sure what the context is? Can you read that out?

Obviously saying "You behave like an American" wouldn't get me a vio.
you’re going to get a racial slurs vio if you keep trying to push the “Niger” thing

you didn’t even use it correctly grammatically, “nigerien” would’ve been the word to use there, you’re clearly intentionally using in a way that’s similar to the n word to make a point

it’s VERY easy to tell if someone is trying to use these words legitimately vs using them to filter bypass

if you’re using a country name that is one letter off from the n word as an insult in context that does not make sense and is grammatically incorrect you are going to get a racial slurs vio because it’s clear what you mean
Hey, don't threat me with vios, if you really think that's what my intention is, go on give me a vio. I am legit trying to discuss here about a topic, no need to be over sensitive.

I do agree that the grammar is not correct, but that's cause English is not my first language, so once more, you are threatening to give me a vio because

1- The word is close to a Slur
2- The grammar is not correct

Like seriously, don't you see what I am trying to say? The word Niger is different with the N word in ANY context!! You can't just give out vios because a word is close to another word and you feel offended by it.

If you really wanna do that, then change the HC rule to something like

"Any form of severe or excessive hate speech or hateful language, or words which are close to slurs and being used in an offensive context"

Additionally, adding the fact that how the mod team feels about the context.
payamcfJan 12, 2020
alexandra
evading the hateful comments filter to use a slur, even if you misspell the word so the filter doesn’t catch it (which is literally filter bypassing), is against the rules and will result in a vio if it’s clear that you were trying to say a slur
Then why did I get a vio? Is it really that "clear" that I wanted to say a slur? I literally wanted to play around with the fruit filter, why on earth would I bypass the filter in the mafia meeting after we won a game...
payamcfJan 12, 2020
I also didn't get an answer, like why do you think "stupid" does not fall under HC and the word which Universal said does? Who decides this? To me it seems it's just a gut feeling and how good the mod team feels on that day. If a mod feels like "nah that's okay", then it's okay. Rules of a website should not be like that. I hope you understand what I am trying to say here.
payamcfJan 12, 2020
btw I can't edit or delete the some older comments on this post (idk why). If you feel what I wrote is offensive, please edit or remove the comment, I genuinely just want to discuss about a topic which I feel is unclear to me, I have no intentions to offend anyone here.
starJan 12, 2020
payamcf
Hey, don't threat me with vios, if you really think that's what my intention is, go on give me a vio. I am legit trying to discuss here about a topic, no need to be over sensitive.

I do agree that the grammar is not correct, but that's cause English is not my first language, so once more, you are threatening to give me a vio because

1- The word is close to a Slur
2- The grammar is not correct

Like seriously, don't you see what I am trying to say? The word Niger is different with the N word in ANY context!! You can't just give out vios because a word is close to another word and you feel offended by it.

If you really wanna do that, then change the HC rule to something like

"Any form of severe or excessive hate speech or hateful language, or words which are close to slurs and being used in an offensive context"

Additionally, adding the fact that how the mod team feels about the context.
i'm not threatening you - i'm warning you

the spelling of the word does not matter when we look at moderating it. there are filters in place for those slurs for a reason. it is not possible for us to create a list of every possible way that someone could bypass the filter. if someone is using something that's one letter off from the n word in a context that's clearly being used as a way to bypass the n word (e.g. calling someone a country, which doesn't make sense and you would have absolutely no contextual reason to do so) then you're going to get a violation, because you're clearly trying to evade the filter

we've made several announcements that we show 0 tolerance for slurs regardless of context. this policy was put in place at the instruction of the site owner.
starJan 12, 2020
payamcf
Then why did I get a vio? Is it really that "clear" that I wanted to say a slur? I literally wanted to play around with the fruit filter, why on earth would I bypass the filter in the mafia meeting after we won a game...
i don't think you understand that it doesn't matter what context you use a slur in; it's a violation. playing around with/testing the filter doesn't make it okay.

payamcf
I also didn't get an answer, like why do you think "stupid" does not fall under HC and the word which Universal said does? Who decides this? To me it seems it's just a gut feeling and how good the mod team feels on that day. If a mod feels like "nah that's okay", then it's okay. Rules of a website should not be like that. I hope you understand what I am trying to say here.
stupid is not a slur. the r word is a slur, and the word that universalstudios asked about is slang for a slur. hateful comments doesn't mean "mean word". not every filtered word in a mafia game will net you a vio if you bypass the filter. b*tch, c*nt, a/sshole, piece of sh*t, all of these insults will have 0 repercussions. slurs will have repercussions.

like i mentioned in the last post, it's a policy that the site owner himself has put in place
alexandraJan 12, 2020
sorry star is me i forgot i was on my alt on my laptop
blacksnakemoanJan 14, 2020
wink
i believe what you're missing here is context.
lmao the thread should have ended with this