GaryThompson is a GT'ing alt174

Thirty11mon 17h
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Final Update 1/29/20: GaryThompson, the gamethrower, has been site banned!

EDIT: OR IS IT?? UPDATE 4/2: WE ARE UNCOVERING A CONSPIRACY RIGHT NOW FOLKS!! https://epicmafia.com/topic/94541


https://epicmafia.com/report/281948

The following people need to be called out for stupidly thinking Gary wasn't GT'ing (I am missing many names):

  • Charley - admin
  • Michael - moderator
  • Songin - moderator
  • Eli - moderator
  • Meg - moderator
  • Jess - moderator
  • sinB - moderator
  • Ally - moderator
  • Domitian
  • Takotsubo
  • Yachi
  • Evo
  • Torreador
  • CisHetMale
  • Xhanthe
  • Ivana
  • MonteCarrlo
  • Dasein
  • Quelli

The History of GaryThompson

https://epicmafia.com/user/788593/

"my initials spelling gt is just a massive coincidence that is my actual name" - GaryThompson, https://epicmafia.com/report/280380

Hypothesis

GaryThompson is a gamethrowing troll that purposefully antagonizes people and is looking to make his alignment lose. He very intelligently toes the line between appearing bad at the game and intentionally throwing games so as to not be vio'd.

Background

He is confirmed to be the alternate account of a previously banned user.

"Tis lad is banned so adios till 3 months." - Spadez, https://epicmafia.com/report/272446

The Birth of GaryThompson

Our story starts nine months ago with the birth of a new account, GaryThompson. He intentionally shoots a townsperson into autoloss for his alignment. The moderator sees Gary's lack of games and assumes he is a noob, not looking into his alternate accounts. NO VIO. https://epicmafia.com/report/266816

The story continues very similarly for the next three months. He is no vio'd for reasons like "suboptimal," "no intention to lose," "leaving information out accidentally isn't a sin," and "being wrong isn't a sin."

https://epicmafia.com/report/267816 https://epicmafia.com/report/267817 https://epicmafia.com/report/267900 https://epicmafia.com/report/267942 https://epicmafia.com/report/271810 https://epicmafia.com/report/271997 https://epicmafia.com/report/272028 https://epicmafia.com/report/272060 https://epicmafia.com/report/272186 https://epicmafia.com/report/272189 https://epicmafia.com/report/272190 https://epicmafia.com/report/272445 https://epicmafia.com/report/272446

The First Ban

After due diligence by a now deleted user after some investigative work, it is proposed for the first time Gary is a gt account. A smart moderator by the name of Spadez investigates the account and realizes it is an alt for a banned user. GaryThompson is banned for three months.

The Return After Ban #1

Gary returns about one month ago to EpicMafia and goes back to his gamethrowing ways. He toes the line between intentional and unintentional, knowing how the moderators handle reports on EM to evade any violations. The end goal is always to make his alignment lose. Users of all races and backgrounds catch on and continue to file reports against Gary.

Moderators continue to come to his rescue.

> "They explained their strategy below. No intent to lose the game either." - Neptune, https://epicmafia.com/report/278315

Another user catches on to his ways, this time in a comped game. The moderators once again give Gary the benefit of the doubt.

"I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt GaryThompson, you have an obligation when playing a comp setup to know how the roles work, and how they interact with eachother. You can't split votes with paralyzer." - VanityPrime, https://epicmafia.com/report/278482

These reports continue to be filed game after game, and moderators continue to say "bad gameplay is not gt."

https://epicmafia.com/report/278488 https://epicmafia.com/report/278524 https://epicmafia.com/report/278755 https://epicmafia.com/report/278955 https://epicmafia.com/report/279270 https://epicmafia.com/report/279643 https://epicmafia.com/report/279930 https://epicmafia.com/report/279931 https://epicmafia.com/report/280099 https://epicmafia.com/report/280103 https://epicmafia.com/report/280238 https://epicmafia.com/report/280334 https://epicmafia.com/report/280337 https://epicmafia.com/report/280380 https://epicmafia.com/report/280427 https://epicmafia.com/report/280455

SinB, an intelligent moderator after receiving yet another report about GaryThompson gamethrowing, goes into more depth a month ago about what he sees.

> I somewhat debated with myself for awhile now about this report and what is the best verdict given to GaryThompson. fuel I know you were upset with how GaryThompson was playing, but I ultimately decided to no vio this report for the following reasons. Nothing indicated that this user was trolling or game throwing by any means. Sure, they could have participated more on the second day, but overall, I didn't see where GaryThompson gt'd or trolled. I didn't see any instances where GaryThompson had to be reminded what his role or other roles do in this game. None of his lines indicated that. Him tabbing out and wasn't present to paralyze on pr wasn't intentionally gamethrowing, but I do agree that he should have put more focus during the games.And as much I don't really believe with what he said during night 4, I'm choosing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. And even then, it still isn't intentionally throwing in that game. I would discuss the other game reports, but I feel like the other moderators' explanations were sufficient enough. If you have more evidence of more games where GaryThompson gt'd or trolled in, please refile with game links. If this happens again in the future, please feel free to report it. While I did no vio this report, I'll be keeping an eye out for GaryThompson, in case something similar happens in the future, but for now, this report is being no vio'd. - SinB, https://epicmafia.com/report/278485

So, let me ask the community - what do you think?

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carolineJan 21, 2020
jess 7d 18h -2
There was no intent to throw the game. Please be aware of the setup/roles before participating, especially in comp.


This is funny bc Gary had almost 1000 games at this point
deletedJan 21, 2020!
If this was to be a serious competitive site (laughs), then the 'intent' clause of the GT rule should be abolished. Shooting a clear, for example, should be GT, or perhaps ISP at the very least. Being mind-numblingly dumb isn't a vio which means the site has gone downhill. People have no incentive to learn so they will continue to be bad and continue to fk up basic mechanics.
MouthJan 21, 2020
+1
dude what GT is saying is so true, before people would get ISP via Neg now you can hammer a clear in 3 way and get no punishment. I make some mistakes as well like self hammering killing into autoloss but only very rarely and I will gladly take those vios if it means every time someone throws against their wincon just because they are stupid and I report them they get vio'd.
deletedJan 21, 2020!
Even if you gave out ISP (via negligence) vios everytime, it would encourage people to actually pay attention and not screw up mechanical autowins

As is, you can do whatever and just claim there's no intent
denialJan 21, 2020
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GaryThompson
If this was to be a serious competitive site (laughs), then the 'intent' clause of the GT rule should be abolished. Shooting a clear, for example, should be GT, or perhaps ISP at the very least. Being mind-numblingly dumb isn't a vio which means the site has gone downhill. People have no incentive to learn so they will continue to be bad and continue to fk up basic mechanics.
somewhat true, but you'll never find any game that punishes players for making a mistake

if the site was to be more competitive, there has to be rankings and games based off of rankings

continuous subtle throwing should lock you into the bronze league
ThirtyJan 21, 2020
+1
denial
if the site was to be more competitive, there has to be rankings and games based off of rankings
...Like comp rounds? Are you that far removed?
deletedJan 21, 2020
+1
denial
somewhat true, but you'll never find any game that punishes players for making a mistake
Chess
MouthJan 21, 2020
damn GT hit him with the left hook
deletedJan 21, 2020
denial
somewhat true, but you'll never find any game that punishes players for making a mistake
Poker
denialJan 21, 2020
+1
Thirty
denial
if the site was to be more competitive, there has to be rankings and games based off of rankings
...Like comp rounds? Are you that far removed?
i don't think you fully understand what i'm saying. your ranking in comp rounds does not dictate the type of games available to you. getting gold constantly does not place you in a higher standard of games where you won't play with some brand new 1500 points account that hasnt played a comp game yet
MouthJan 21, 2020
we dont have the player base for that so we gotta work with what we got
ThirtyJan 21, 2020
Denial is basically backing up a subtle gamethrower here. I'm shutting this down. What an embarrassment to this site.
ThirtyJan 29, 2020
UPDATE: He has been site banned. I am so utterly disappointed at the lack of moderation for four months on this account. 1k games in until he was finally banned and many people's comp runs destroyed because of him.
calciumkidJan 29, 2020
Wipe them tears kid
deletedJan 29, 2020
I'm sure this is like Christmas day for you Thirty

Celebration time! Time to pop come champagne.
jessJan 29, 2020
+3
proud to be mentioned in an infamous thirty forum
deletedJan 29, 2020
+10
my name is alexandra
AlyssaJan 29, 2020
+10
Why didn't you include Alexandra in the opening post, OP? She earned it
deletedJan 29, 2020
i’m garythompson using a vpn and i banned myself to cover my tracks. don’t @ me
michaelJan 29, 2020
if only you knew thirty.
Is Gary a purposeful GT'ing troll?