almost 5 years

pick your poison

and keep the discussion civil please

i'm a big fan of
30
bernie 'bernard' sanders
12
elizabeth 'lizard' warren
12
donald 'the don' trump
7
pete 'al neuman' buttigieg
4
andrew 'secretly white' yang
3
tulsi 'tryhard' gabbard
2
cory 'identity crisis' booker
1
joe 'cryptofascist' biden
1
kamala 'calamity' harris
1
marianne 'everybody gets a car' williamson
over 4 years
The following is a 'rap' that was 'rapped' by a Fox News personality during the most recent new years eve special. It's beautiful and I'll never forget it.

I'm from Vermont.
I take what I want.
I'm a commie.
Go cry to your mommy.
over 4 years

error says

her history of supporting hindu nationalists abroad doesn't necessarily gas me up, either


I love u, it genuinely warms my heart seeing you again
over 4 years

MeetTerry says


error says

gabbard seems like the only one who's ready to address and confront the military-industrial complex but no one will give her enough play. i want an anti-war candidate more than anything.


she contends that ISIS/ISIL and the Syrian rebels are no different. she also pushed the conspiracy that assad didn't use chemical weapons.

she had pretty anti-lgbt and anti-abortion beliefs until she ran for a democrat seat

she supports a lot of the bad domestic policies, similar to bernie


her history of supporting hindu nationalists abroad doesn't necessarily gas me up, either
over 4 years

error says

gabbard seems like the only one who's ready to address and confront the military-industrial complex but no one will give her enough play. i want an anti-war candidate more than anything.


she contends that ISIS/ISIL and the Syrian rebels are no different. she also pushed the conspiracy that assad didn't use chemical weapons.

she had pretty anti-lgbt and anti-abortion beliefs until she ran for a democrat seat

she supports a lot of the bad domestic policies, similar to bernie
over 4 years
gabbard seems like the only one who's ready to address and confront the military-industrial complex but no one will give her enough play. i want an anti-war candidate more than anything.
over 4 years

MeetTerry says


space says

more and more, i've really fallen in love with mayor pete. he more than any other candidate feels like an answer and remedy to trump, not just a counter. he's very level headed, educated but doesn't have an obnoxious air about it, definitely informed on a lot of issues i care about, and his demeanor felt like a soothing vaporub massage in that congested a** debate. i definitely think he needs to put more work into how he addresses race and includes it in his platform. i worry, of course, about his electability especially after he got the full smackdown by mr. colorado but i'm fully charmed by mayor booty.


I am pleasantly surprised that we have somehow aligned on something for once


#growth
over 4 years

space says

more and more, i've really fallen in love with mayor pete. he more than any other candidate feels like an answer and remedy to trump, not just a counter. he's very level headed, educated but doesn't have an obnoxious air about it, definitely informed on a lot of issues i care about, and his demeanor felt like a soothing vaporub massage in that congested a** debate. i definitely think he needs to put more work into how he addresses race and includes it in his platform. i worry, of course, about his electability especially after he got the full smackdown by mr. colorado but i'm fully charmed by mayor booty.


I am pleasantly surprised that we have somehow aligned on something for once
over 4 years
having skimmed this thread i really feel like summa y'all need to read up on ronald reagan.
over 4 years
i entered this cycle pretty ready to root for bernie sanders but over the past few months he's just turned into the guy i wouldn't mind voting for in the general.

his campaign sorta devolved into this really dreadful, angry, finger-pointing (and wagging, per his trademark) mess and i'm not here for it. i remember before entering the race he said he would only enter if he felt there weren't better candidates. i really feel like he entered prematurely. i also feel like he believes his platform is still radical: it is not. most democrats have since adopted a LOT of his ideas and they've become central to this election cycle. his performance at the debate sorta solidified my belief that he really believes only he can be a good nominee/president. in a weird irony, it sorta just feels like he's become a left-wing mirror to trump.

his closing remark at the debates was especially laughable: the idea that the problem was that nothing was changing or could change without him. everything DID change because of him but they've also evolved without him and also it feels kinda crazy for him to just sweep his arm across the stage he was on and act like he was standing around a bunch of wealthy moderate white guys. not that kamala harris or cory booker are agents of change in the slightest, that's an uncle tom and an aunt tammy if i ever saw one.


more and more, i've really fallen in love with mayor pete. he more than any other candidate feels like an answer and remedy to trump, not just a counter. he's very level headed, educated but doesn't have an obnoxious air about it, definitely informed on a lot of issues i care about, and his demeanor felt like a soothing vaporub massage in that congested a** debate. i definitely think he needs to put more work into how he addresses race and includes it in his platform. i worry, of course, about his electability especially after he got the full smackdown by mr. colorado but i'm fully charmed by mayor booty.
over 4 years
waiting
over 4 years
that was your opening to start one: let's start an easy one on the nationwide $15 wage

if someone isn't willing to change their mind on the minimum wage issue after talking with them, then it's pretty indicative how other discussions are gonna go.
over 4 years
You don't really seem interested in having a discussion.
over 4 years
sure, been having pretty good discussion on these types of policies on /r/BadEconomics as an armchair economist
over 4 years

MeetTerry says


shayneismyname says

Then why have his policy proposals been picked up by most of the people currently in the race?


are you another /r/s4p user?

his polling numbers have been eaten away at by warren

he only seems prominent because he ran against hilldawg and seemed "woke" with his policies.

it's not adopting - it's to literally pander and not be out-done by another candidate. which is why we got democrat candidates promising free abortions to trans women which makes no sense


Can we have a legitimate like non-meme-y non hyperbole dialogue that doesn't involve telling people to "off themselves?"
over 4 years

shayneismyname says

Then why have his policy proposals been picked up by most of the people currently in the race?


are you another /r/s4p user?

his polling numbers have been eaten away at by warren

he only seems prominent because he ran against hilldawg and seemed "woke" with his policies.

it's not adopting - it's to literally pander and not be out-done by another candidate. which is why we got democrat candidates promising free abortions to trans women which makes no sense
over 4 years

MeetTerry says


error says


moonunit says

Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.


he's definitely not wowing me right now


course not, he's a washed out candidate who only seems important because he finished second in a two-horse race

anyone who thinks he's a "different" kind of politician should sincerely off themselves because he'd be assuming the presidency at age 80. that's just garden-variety shite.

he's a bum that never had a real job til age 40 and has never passed meaningful legislation. everything he proposes is poorly researched. it's all a purity test


Then why have his policy proposals been picked up by most of the people currently in the race?
over 4 years

error says


moonunit says

Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.


he's definitely not wowing me right now


course not, he's a washed out candidate who only seems important because he finished second in a two-horse race

anyone who thinks he's a "different" kind of politician should sincerely off themselves because he'd be assuming the presidency at age 80. that's just garden-variety shite.

he's a bum that never had a real job til age 40 and has never passed meaningful legislation. everything he proposes is poorly researched. it's all a purity test
over 4 years

Psy says




ill take this post at face value but a large percentage of minorities, namely african-americans, place themselves on the middle of the spectrum.
over 4 years
sank you know I fking love you to death but your support for bernie kills me everytime

the man was promising so many free things that he was running out of breath
over 4 years
Buttigieg is the only candidate that gave me sensible policies

His answer on paying for college was pretty good. He did claim he supported a $15 national minimum wage (again, what a hilariously dumb idea) although that's more pandering to the far left.

His carbon tax and dividends was excellent.

all in all, I found my next candidate
over 4 years
Liberal Democrats Ruled the Debates. Will Moderates Regain Their Voices?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/29/us/politics/2020-democrats.html
over 4 years
over 4 years
i'll certainly find myself vacillating between him and liz in the months leading up
over 4 years

moonunit says

Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.


he's definitely not wowing me right now
over 4 years
Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.