Infiltration Mission57

sl0nderman42mon 14d

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sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017!
cubMay 3, 2017
i dont think being hostile will accomplish much and thats coming from me
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
Who's being hostile, I'm just being curious.

AsheMay 3, 2017
These bonobo's should compare site age..
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
This person is among us

sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
+1
deletedMay 3, 2017
they dont mean sandbox, sandbox is irrelevant
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
sl0ndermanMay 3, 2017
BenMay 3, 2017
sl0nderman

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y8cE3ey8gtL7IRYgUK1E705Po_ew1PcSaBvRHuChR1g/edit#gid=0
if youre going to go to all that effort you'd think they'd at least try to be correct
cubMay 3, 2017
you could just explain to them why roles like these are good and probably convince some people interested in the game of mafia to try em

sl0nderman
you could tell them how voodoo makes town pick their words carefully, which is an important skill in mafia, and also allows mafia some contingency against being revealed by reckless reporting roles

sl0nderman
Who's being hostile, I'm just being curious.

this is a good example of someone who just has the wrong impression from only playing either nonsense setups with roles like maid or from jumping straight to ridiculously complex setups (like reverse mafia i guess i never played it)

some conversion roles are bad: maid is awful under all circumstances due to being block-proof, zombie is awful under all circumstances due to the shared win condition making not jointing pointless as well as balancing issues, etc.

masons, though, are an excellent conversion role that allows town to sacrifice possible prs in exchange for group clearing as well as risking mismason and recruiting potentially mafia-sided thirds

you know all of this but they probably don't and if they did they might find an appreciation for mafia implementations like em
LumMay 3, 2017
but cub i'm too busy being on my high horse
cubMay 3, 2017
sl0nderman
this is how you convince nobody
cubMay 3, 2017
sl0nderman

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y8cE3ey8gtL7IRYgUK1E705Po_ew1PcSaBvRHuChR1g/edit#gid=0
theyre right about surgeon at least

surgeon shouldnt exist

roles like nurse combine two conflicting roles to create a trade-off, you'd never drunk a pr and you'd always save a pr (again they probably just think it's a combo role and don't realize that)

surgeon though is a terrible role
cubMay 3, 2017!
they also have a point about mort, in a jan game mort makes jan pointless and consequently makes itself pointless unless there's multiple killers and multiple killers is bad setup design anyway

but mort is basically a game mode role just nobody considers that because game mode roles are a bad idea unless the role influences game mode (like baker)
FloorMay 3, 2017
Ashe
These bonobo's should compare site age..
then you'd just come to the fact that ToS is years younger yet far has far out-achieved EM in popularity.

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Today I Learned

That town of salem doesn't have a vanilla villager role because people find it too boring
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