over 7 years

I used to lie awake at night wondering "How does such a bad player maintain a 56% win ratio and be awarded 7 trophies in 11 months?"

Now I know.


Part one: The method


It all began to make sense to me after playing a game and filing this report https://epicmafia.com/report/200545

During the game (VDLI), both PRs allowed Gerry (mafia) to claim their role and hammer with no repercussions two days in a row for no apparent reason, giving the mafia a free win.

The moderator handling the report ruled that it was "very bad play" and not "gamethrowing", even though it's a well documented fact that players that allow the mafia to cc their role like this get violations. (two examples: https://epicmafia.com/report/204140 https://epicmafia.com/report/203429)

None of the other players reported anyone even though it was clear that both PRs gamethrew.

These three elements summarise the keys to Gerry's success.

Unsurprisingly, the PRs of the aforementioned game are both accounts owned by Gerry's friends. One is owned by Elise, a player with over 42000 profile views on one account and known to be friends with Gerry. The other is named after Gerry and uses one of his previous avatars.

The first key is that Gerry's friends play towards his win condition, not their own.

For most players, this wouldn't be enough. Most players' friends would get banned and the games would be refunded. Not with Gerry though. The moderator team will always do what benefits Gerry when it comes to reports filed in favour of or not in favour of Gerry. Why? Because Gerry is a moderator himself. Not only is Gerry a moderator himself, but most if not all of the moderators are friends with Gerry, and a lot of Gerry's friends have ties to the moderator team.

This is a screenshot of Gerry's epicmafia family, annotated with information that ties the listed players to the moderator team. All of the labelled players have been able to decide the verdicts of reports. This shows that Gerry can likely influence which players become moderators.

The second key is that Gerry can manipulate the moderator team easily.

For some time, these two keys would be enough, but eventually questions would be asked. However, Gerry has maintained this control over the website for years. That's where the final piece comes into play. Not only does Gerry have direct control over the group of friends that he plays with and the moderator team, but he also has a more subtle control over the majority of the rest of the playerbase. Most players don't dare to file reports that would be a problem for him, or feel that it will be a waste of time because of the second key.

The third key is the control over the general playerbase.


Part two: The investigation


Now that Gerry's underhanded method has been revealed, the legitimacy of his trophies and win ratio comes into question.

In the order that they are listed on his profiles, the following comments can be made about the rounds that Gerry trophied in:


https://epicmafia.com/round/367

This is a screenshot of the top of the list of players that Gerry played with during this round. Of the 7 players listed (Burgers and Lumos are the same person), 3 are members of Gerry's family, and one (Burgers) has been friends with Gerry for a long time.

Burgers had at least 18 games played with Gerry during this round. Check the any of the previous rounds, virtually never does anyone have 18 games played with the same player in one round.

Also, Burgers had a disproportionate number of games with Gerry this round.


https://epicmafia.com/round/438

The player that Gerry played with most here was PonyLove, a member of Gerry's family and also a moderator. Here are PonyLove's games for this round.

Additionally, Ripple and SheepPotato (both Gerry's mentees) played a total of 15 games with Gerry (incomplete games included), from which Gerry picked up 9 wins and 1 loss. The player that Ripple played with the most was Gerry.


https://epicmafia.com/round/334

4 of the players here are members of Gerry's family, and the other is a moderator.


https://epicmafia.com/round/378

This is a link to MrsWiggles' profile - https://epicmafia.com/user/527946#/ - The round ended 10 months ago (as this is being written), which is the exact time that MrsWiggles stopped playing. They have 4000 points. It looks like they came out of nowhere at the start of the round and disappeared straight after, once Gerry had won.

Screenshot of Lumos' games from this round:


https://epicmafia.com/round/346

Note is one of Gerry's alts.

This is the top of the list of the players that Gerry played with. RinLin9 and Mori are both members of Gerry's family. Stiffy became a moderator after this thread was published.

RinLin9 has a disproportionate number of games with Gerry:


https://epicmafia.com/round/413

NB: Ripple had at least 11 games with Gerry this round, counting alts.

Vinaybn is, like MrsWiggles, another user that no one's ever heard of that disappeared as soon as Gerry won the round that they played with him in, in this case, 8 months ago.

Giga13 is an "ally" of Gerry's family.

PonyLove, Johnreid, and Mori are all members of Gerry's family.

Ripple is an ex-member of Gerry's family, and currently one of Gerry's mentees.


https://epicmafia.com/round/425

Lazy is one of Gerry's alts.

SheepPotato and Himiko are both Gerry's mentees.

PonyLove and Maldito (JeffreyAaron) are members of Gerry's family. JeffreyAaron played an additional 9 games with Gerry on his alts, as you can see further down on the list, totalling 19 games overall.

The fifth player on this list, Infinity, is an alt of one of Gerry's friends, the account is "in love with" Note.


https://epicmafia.com/round/500

GundamTanaka is one of Gerry's alts.

YoSoyPabloEscobar is Lumos. Papuito, xPooky, and Nicol are Gerry's friends.

almost 5 years

Grunge says

this is beyond my time but i wanted to pop in to make a gerrymandering joke


Genius like this belongs in https://epicmafia.com/topic/83376
over 5 years
this is beyond my time but i wanted to pop in to make a gerrymandering joke
over 5 years
Damn why do I find out about this now
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Geri's methods*
over 5 years
Last 2 rounds have trophy winners that are part of my Illuminati circle (Giga13 and Mori)

Gerry's Methods never ends.

over 5 years
I'm pretty hungry actually, gotta eat something when the country enters austerity.
over 5 years
Who wants to buy some bone broth
over 5 years
Yosoy is lumos?

Gundam is Gerry?
over 5 years
GT
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over 5 years
The illuminati picture still makes me crack up like the first day
over 5 years
SOME WOULD SAY... HE'S GERRYMANDERING.
over 5 years
yoyo was just jealous that he didn't have a kageyama icon tbh
over 5 years


Which one are you in?
over 5 years
remember the days we actually used to care so much about epicmafia that making threads like this was an actual thing
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i feel like as the days pass by epicmafia keeps losing its black members
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whatever happened to gerry? that guy was black
over 6 years
over 6 years

glhf says

get over it, everyone on this site cheats



D3xTr0m3th0rph4n says

Gerry has an advantage over other players because of meta...old news bro. Plus other ppl do it also. Time and time again we have been told out of game meta isnt cheating


If new users knew, they would leave before getting hooked. Maybe the separation of red heart and gold heart games achieves that.
over 6 years
Is that true role mods
over 6 years

Nathan says


Edark says

You look like you would fit in the role mod team.


offer's still on the table ;)


dont lie, role mods let multiaccounters trophy now lol
over 6 years
good thread
over 6 years

yoyo200900 says

Sinead I will help you quit if you go on a Skype date with me. That offer extends to Vilden too but only if he pretends to be a girl the whole time like he did between 2012 and 2015 (or thereabouts)


only if you agree to be in a committed e-relationship with me
over 6 years
Sinead I will help you quit if you go on a Skype date with me. That offer extends to Vilden too but only if he pretends to be a girl the whole time like he did between 2012 and 2015 (or thereabouts)
over 6 years

Edark says

You look like you would fit in the role mod team.


offer's still on the table ;)