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Featured Setups Revamp

deletedover 9 years

Hey sup guys it's sonseray,

Featured setups are actually one of the few changes to the site since I've come back that I really approve of. I think it's a great idea to get players who usually don't venture outside of classic mafia/fancy pants to try setups that require critical thinking and analytic skill. I think the featured setups idea has a whole lot of potential and I'd really like to see it work.

However:

  • Setups like sex and lies can't be featured, because they are far too complicated for the average player in a red hearts game. I ran on sex and lies on gold hearts not too long ago and I literally had to explain the concept of the mason list every single game. I tried to play sex and lies while it was featured like two days ago and I just wasn't invested enough to spend all game explaining things that most of these players don't want to understand. They usually just lynch day one. Setups that require slightly more complicated strategies like the mason list are simply beyond comprehension for some users. In this regard, featuring sex and lies and other setups similar to it is a complete failure. Instead of teaching players to play more advanced setups, they are learning how to play it the wrong way and eventually bringing those mentalities into gold heart games.

  • Setups like b2ns, jan 2.0, and c14 dawnstart need to be featured every single time if the idea is to work as intended. Namely, setups that are very straightforward and easy to understand while still stimulating basic scumhunting and scum play skills. When I play b2ns and c14 dawnstart while it is featured, I see the tables filling fast and I usually don't even have to explain why we can't NL day one. For these setups, it is absolutely working as intended. I've also seen players I wouldn't expect to attempt gold hearts games in my gold heart b2ns games. Please feature setups like these every single time. Do what works.

deletedover 9 years
Bump because the staff needs to agree with this otherwise featured setups are detrimental instead of beneficial
apeescaper
over 9 years
feature classic mafia imo
Onuzq
over 9 years

apeescaper says

let's just play classic mafia since its an easy setup that everyone can understand


Featured setup are there for people to apply skill to EM.

On that note, put setups like O2R or VDLI. I would suggest BV but that setup is too hard for people to understand the use of the cop reports. Give setups where it's better to not have a cc, and have mafia force themselves to towntell by making reads on the scummiest of players.
apeescaper
over 9 years
let's just play classic mafia since its an easy setup that everyone can understand
CreamyPies
over 9 years

Apostasy says

Like for real though a lot of players are absolutely incapable of even understanding that whether you nl or not is contingent on the amount of players in the game


my major drawback other than playing while being hammered, is this. playing a setup without proper knowledge of the game mechanics you end up getting yelled at or reported. and when u know the game mechanics and others don't, you yell at and report them.
deletedover 9 years
Like for real though a lot of players are absolutely incapable of even understanding that whether you nl or not is contingent on the amount of players in the game
deletedover 9 years
It's called Yellow Journalism. Say it with me now.
deletedover 9 years
Regardless of what he calls it, he's right
deletedover 9 years
Revamp sounds sexier Connor where is your dramatic flair
Hibiki
over 9 years
this is hardly a revamp. its just "hey pick simpler setups lol"