Who would help me get this tested sigh...

Benny admitted to cheating. We still love him but there is nothing we can do.

Brakes is gone.........and where's Sarah i cant see her on the family page

ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IS BANNED AND YOU DONT DO ANYTHING EVEN YOU HAVE MODS AND POPULAR PLAYERS THERE. WORST FAMILY EVER.

@kash im not even mad at anyone anymore--- my spot in the fam needed to be filled. I will stop by and comment on setups once in a while as i just did with yours. Please test the setup i linked it is my last request of the site. I may be back as a playr and a setup maker at some point but it doesnt look likely. Ive been here too long with too little to show for it.

That being said I've made 2 new setup: http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/702392 This one was tested and turned out well except for hooker being OP at 2 town/1 lookout/1 hooker as she can hook the other maf's kill, and so I'm still looking for a replacement. http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/704067 This is a fresh idea that havent been tested (and I won't be able to test it for the few upcoming days) so its still pretty raw. I'd like it if any of you guys would test both of the setups or come up with some suggestions for improvments.

@Brakes chillax man this is a java mafia website don't take everything so hard, thanks for putting trust in me though. If you ever feel you wanna come back just send a message.

@Skept Well I'd like it too but our modest club is too small to arrange such things imo. I kinda like it the way it is now when we use this wall to discuss setups (although we need more people playtesting, all comp lobby is these days is just A&D A&D A&D A&D A&D). Also make that setup, I would do it but I think I'm missing your concept lel

http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/684736 This is the only concept i even care about . Thinking about deleting the rest of my setups... Perhaps eveñ the account. Keep the fam going kash... U got alot of potential... In some ways i see what i once was... A methodical tinkerer hammering your throughts out with the role buttons.

I also feel like it would be cool if we were more organized! If you guys are up for it. We could have an "assembly line"-like structure for Concept/Creation/Testing/Finishing. Just a thought.

I would love to see a setup with WWs and a Priest.

Okay so thoughts on my setup: There's definitely some cool interactions i didn't think of (papa reveals actress on lynch to "clear"), but there's a number of problems as well. if any maf is lynched d1 and mafia kill a priest, they risk autoloss from traitor conversion. and it goes on down to being required to kill priest to win, which has a 50/50 chance of losing instead of winning. If BP is uncc'ed, they pretty much can't be hit unless witch gets a priest. As much as I like my idea, I think it's just gonna have to be let go.

Yeah thats why they're such bad roles lol

Kash: Yeah I know siren gets shafted incredibly hard ): If I were to try, I'd probably go like 3SW/Tracker/Doc/Priest/Siren/2Stalker no reveal. Also with autocrat, it can force town into likely autoloss (2/2/1 and a claimed autocrat will screw over town, as maf would just keep the autocrat alive to further their ends)(that said, it turns town into kingmaker which is really bad.)

http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/693903 New version of slepz's setup, maf should have an easier time now. BP is removed altogether so town can't get an autoclear/dead maf and at least 1 setup is still cced when town gets a maf so its not autowin for town when you get the first maf now. Also santa is replaced with enchantress because you should always crystal anyways and town having 2 reports together was way OP.

Manix - I will help you test it this evening if you'd like. Just shoot me a message when you get on and we'll work something out.

Siren is retarded since she can win only with killing visitors. Even being alive at 2way doesnt make it. Brakes tried to implement siren in mimic clusterfuck and it failed badly. You may be able to work out something with an autocrat but imo its a bad role too as he's town's top priority and maf doesnt care about him more than they care for a blue. Maybe throw in an autocrat if one of your setups get too townsided, idk.

also just before I go to sleep (I'm really bad at this): I have other setups that I'll post here eventually, but i wanna see if i can get this priest one off the ground first. I do want to make a setup that can actually utilize autocrat or siren properly at some point too.

@meta idk this still seems like a couple of prs thrown together instead of a setup with a firm idea behind it. Can you explain how do maf/town supposoed to play?

I haven't tested it unranked yet. We should probably do some mechtesting on witchkills, yeah. Because if it turns witch traitor then that's kinda lame (that said I'm reasonably sure it might, because i think witchkilling bomb get syou blown up) Actress over stalker mostly because I like actress but it also gives more of a strategical advantage to the mafia. The flipside is killing a priest accidentally with the nightkill can turn mafia traitor which hurts them a lot. To be honest I'm more concerned that town is underpowered in comparison to the mafia (perhaps stalker in place of actress could work, or maybe swap BP for bomb)

Looks good manix. Did you test it unranked? It needs mechanics testing on witching priest. Any particular reason for actress over stalker?

http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/676229 - willing to take criticism on how sucky this setup is. Fire away.

http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/693552

This too

http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/693493



Opinions please~