It's nice.
Come look at mine
http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/826339#

Ok you're right its not QUITE autowin for mafia, but its very very close.

if vote is 4 to 4 (non traitor dies n1) mafia can ask jailer to claim for autowin, test jailer, yak him, proceed to NK for autowin if you don't hit both traitors in a row. Same deal with gov if jailer dies.

And you think jailer will claim?!

Obviously. If jailer claims he gets like a 90%+ chance to win. If he doesnt claim he gets like under 30%.

Firstly, not playing to current win condition is reportable and secondly everyone will begin claiming traitor or jailer left right rand center and the hunter will just cc the jan and the fool will catch onto it and pretend to to be the yak.

If you claim anything but traitor you will just hand the mafia the win because they can kill you on a NK. Jailer can be tested by having him jail the yak. And I guess if the jailer will be reported if he asks to be yakked... but even if the jailer doesnt claim, force NL, yak and kill. Chances of everything lining up and town winning is very very slim.

On another note, the orc can claim any motherfucking thing they want and get away with it in the scenario you suggested.

arcbell when the jailer has jailed the yak there is not a single thing stopping them from killing them. LMFAO

Either way gov, fool, and hunter is useless because no one will be lynched as long as traitors arnt dead.

You are just jealous that someone is making well thought-out setups other than you.

Well, if its illegal for the jailer to claim and mafside, then the jan wouldnt claim, and its down to a small chance of jailer hitting yak. If its legal, then janitor is who claims, and if the jailer claims kills the jan, hes stuck as a yakked mafia anyways.

negged